Open Office and NeoOffice

August 28, 2007 by Wolfie · Comment
Filed under: Technology 

A while ago, I wrote a post about my attempt to use Open Office to replace Microsoft Office, in advance of moving from a PC laptop to an iMac. I was looking for an open source alternative to Microsoft, as I couldn’t afford to re-buy all my old software.

On the whole, Open Office was good and on a personal basis was a viable alternative to Microsoft. The problems I had with it were that I couldn’t use it effectively for doing some of my work stuff; it didn’t like some of my Excel documents and was no good with the Access databases that I needed to work with. That really scuppered any chances of being able to use Open Office at work.

When I moved to the Mac, one of the first things I did was to download Open Office. To run on the Mac, Open Office requires something called X11, which is an extra part of the OS X system. OK, so I loaded that. Everything worked fine, but it seemed an inelegant solution. Open Office are working on Open Office Aqua for the Mac, which doesn’t require X11, but as it was described as currently being “very beta” I decided against it.

A Google search for “Open Office for Mac” directed me to NeoOffice. Using Open Office as a base, NeoOffice is a development for Mac that does not require X11 but is a stable release. Excellent; downloaded it, installed it, got rid of Open Office.

And there it stayed for the last few weeks. While I had it available, I didn’t actually need to use it. One thing I did notice with both Open Office and NeoOffice was that - when printing to my HP Photosmart 7762 - the top margin got ignored. Very annoying.

Then, a couple of days ago, I saw this post on Slashdot, saying that the latest release of NeoOffice was available. And guess what? All my problems are solved - it prints the top margin, it will open those big Excel sheets from work in five minutes instead of 20, it will keep the graphs when I re-save in Excel format and it’s more closely integrated with native OS X functionality like Dictionary. All-in-all, it’s brilliant.

If you use a Mac and you want something to replace Microsoft Office (and iWork doesn’t really cut it for you) then check out NeoOffice. You won’t be disappointed.

Open Office

June 20, 2007 by Wolfie · 5 Comments
Filed under: Internet, Technology 

It’s not often that I think good thoughts about Microsoft, but today’s experience with OpenOffice is making me think that perhaps Mr Gates and his pals have actually got it right. Let me explain…

I’m thinking of changing my ageing laptop for a nice, shiny new iMac - I’ve wanted to have one for a while now, ever since I borrowed a friend’s MacBook, and I’ve been saving up (and waiting for Leopard). Most of my laptop apps are Microsoft and, being Windows-based, won’t work on the iMac. So, rather than shell out hundreds of pounds to buy all the Mac versions, I thought I’d experiment with open source software.

I’ve been using Firefox for quite a while as my browser, and I wish I’d started using it earlier. It’s great. I’ve also just started using Thunderbird to deal with the email; also good. Coupled with my Palm Desktop software, for task and calendar functions, that gets rid of Outlook.

So, I’m looking for an office system, but which doesn’t have to have any sort of contact management, calendar, etc. OpenOffice seemed like the perfect candidate. Went to the site, downloaded it, installed it. Nice and easy; so far, so good.

Started to use it; it apparently opens Microsoft file formats - that’s good, don’t need to recreate all my documents - and also saves them - even better, don’t have to worry about swapping files between home and work. All looking good.

First file I needed to open was a simple spreadsheet, created in Excel, which I use to keep track of my personal budget. Opened it fine, saved it fine, kept it firmly in Excel format. Lovely. Looking good, still.

Next file was a one page letter, created in Word. Again opened, saved, kept the format. Job done! This is going to be easy.

But that was yesterday. Today is a different story. Today I needed to open and alter some files created at work. The first was an Excel file. This particular file keeps track of product sales on a month-by-month basis, with graphs for each product as well as data. There are 13 pages in the spreadsheet, each page has 28 products on it - so 28 graphs and data per page. This file - which opens in about 20 seconds normally - took 20 minutes to open. 20 MINUTES!!!

I could get it to open quicker, if (after it finally opened) I then saved it as an OpenOffice format file. Opening then took about 20 seconds. But I can’t have it in that format, because we use Excel at work and it’s a work file. So, OK, I do what I need to do and re-save it back into Excel format; then it opens it more quickly - but without any of the graphs. I’ve looked at the settings and I can’t find anything that tells it to do that.

So I gave up on that one. The work I had managed to do had indicated that the data I was using was possibly not correct, so I needed to check its source. That source is an Access database. Again, I thought that’s OK, the Base program will deal with that.

Well, sort of. I had to first convert it to an OpenOffice format, but at least it did it quickly. Now, in Access what I needed to do would have gone like this:

Open the correct table
Apply a filter to narrow down dates and product codes
Export the data to Excel
Use Excel to determine sub-totals and totals, to check against doubtful data

With OpenOffice, I could open the correct table, but couldn’t find a filter function. Help says I need to create a query. OK, create a query and run it. Does odd things with some of the data, adds a column that I don’t need and don’t know where it came from. But it gives me the important stuff; so let’s export it to Calc to get the totals. But you can’t - I couldn’t find an export function anywhere and that’s where I gave up.

I wanted OpenOffice to be good enough that I could dump my reliance on Microsoft. I wanted to be able to continue my great open source experiment, knowing that I could still work with all my existing files without too much hassle. I needed it to be good enough to at least be able to do what I can already do. But it’s not and I’m so disappointed. I’m going to persevere for a little while longer, but anymore days like today and it’s bye-bye OpenOffice.

I hope that the problems I’ve encountered are just because I’ve done something wrong, not looked in the right place, whatever. I know that there are loads of people out there who use OpenOffice - perhaps you could give me some pointers.

Or perhaps OpenOffice isn’t the one to have - is there another open source office suite out there that will also work on Windows and Mac, and do everything that Microsoft Office can do? Let me know and save me from pulling the rest of my hair out.

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